From guncarson@optusnet.com.au Wed Mar 12 16:03:10 2003 Path: nntp.service.ohio-state.edu!diablo1.net.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: guncarson@optusnet.com.au (Brendan Carson) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe Subject: Re: What's wrong with Bendis' DD Date: 12 Mar 2003 01:50:47 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <3e6e7d89@news.aplusdata.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.28.96.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047462647 26062 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 09:50:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 09:50:47 GMT Xref: nntp.service.ohio-state.edu rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe:386050 Anthony wrote in message news:<3e6e7d89@news.aplusdata.com>... > I'm not sure I'd got that far Brendon. People have different tastes and > everyone has a right to their opinion. Tue expressed his (it is his and > not hers right??) and while I don't agree with it I'm not sure I'd feel > qualified to tell him that he wasn't getting something. Flippantly > dismissing someone's opinion isn't really nice anyway. Sorry if it came across as flippant or a dismissal of anyone's opinion, it wasn't meant to be. It's more a comment on the futility of trying to change someone's opinion in a matter of personal taste, and Tue and I had a long discussion about this where we basically agreed to disagree whether the quality of a book was a subjective thing, (which varied from reader to reader), or an objective thing, (not varying from reader to reader), which could be measured by a certain yardstick which Tue had developed. The thing is, people who read this book, who see the things Tue categorically states are not there in DD like excitement, delicate characterisation, suspense, drama, humour, pathos and sympathy, are not going to be convinced by his posts to drop the book. People like me, to whom the book and character are important, are not going to smile and nod when they see people posting saying not "I don't like this" but "this is crap, you shouldn't like this". He's free to express his opinion and I am free to express mine. In the end it'll probably come down to another war of attrition. Also, how come the people who declare their true, die-hard, loyalty to Marvel are the people who write most of the posts telling the world that Marvel is shit and that "insert top-selling comic here" is a waste of money? If they really want Marvel to do well, why not post stuff about the less-popular lines that they really like? Why not posts saying "Avengers is really interesting lately" or "What's going to happen in Captain America?" or "Check out the artwork on Spider-girl"? I can read one hundred posts saying "DD sucks" and it's not going to make me like it less. But a few posts about Iron Man might at least make me want to glance at it when it's on the shelves. It worked for Thor. BDC