From: srstoneb@bu-ast.bu.edu (Steve-o Stonebraker) Newsgroups: alt.toys.transformers Subject: Re: Are you people retarded? Re: Botcon.com update and the truth on Unicron Date: 3 Dec 2001 02:28:27 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <89b340c6.0111301043.76057ace@posting.google.com> <9u9vtf$vsn$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <9ubs6j$289s$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <9uedjs$1vns$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Trace: news3.bu.edu 1007346507 26492 128.197.73.33 (3 Dec 2001 02:28:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@bu.edu User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.4 (Linux) On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:42:37 -0800, A.Patyk wrote: > Refresher: I don't want a frigging Unicron statue. No matter the price, I'm > not buying one. You want to support it, go ahead. I'm not. Totally fine. > I'm going to bitch about this all I fucking want, Not fine. If you had simply said "I'd prefer a toy" as you claimed in another post, this thread would be 10% of its present size. Instead, you called the idea "ridiculous" and then said "why not charge an exorbitant fee for something worthwhile, like a TOY instead of a STATUE?" Negativity breeds negativity. Complaining in this manner calls down the flames because the subtext of your posts say "this is a stupid idea, 3H are screwing us, and none of you realize it". I'm reminded of a post I made some time ago that Zobovor brought up a month or two back... Among other things, I said this: "When it comes to [the sort of thing] which does nothing but expand the fandom and bring happiness (or amusement) to fans, then criticizing that contribution in a manner which lacks respect is just unacceptable to me. Rude, childish, and utterly pointless." That is what you did, and that is why people are angry. Polite criticism is welcomed here, but rude criticism is not. > regardless of those who would rather bend over and accept anything instead > of trying to get what they really want. Hello, Clone Of What People Think Raksha Is. The people who are acting excited about this statue are *actually* excited about the statue. They have not been brainwashed into thinking they like it when their natural reaction is to say it suxx0rz. Do you really think you know what people want better than they do? > and understanding what I wrote. I'm just saying that the character's first > real appearance should be SOME kind of poseable toy. Are you going to tell > me that molding and producing a new Unicron PVC with moveable arms and head > is going to cost MORE than molding and producing a goddamn new COLD CAST > PORCELEIN STATUE? Don't make me laugh. ::shrug:: Probably not, but I don't really know. I think I would rather have a big statue, though, than a PVC. YMMV. (Obviously.) > A PVC would be a much more cost-effective and (to me) useful > addition to the Transformers range than a statue. This sentence is also totally fine. Note the lack of insults or implications that 3H are jerks or other fans sheep. > The statue is a pretention that I could do without. I'm not sure what is so pretentious about a statue... this is a statement that is bound to irritate a lot of people, since it sounds pretty rude. Care to explain what you mean? --Steve-o Hydra & Buster's Masterforce/Victory subtitling project needs donations! *** http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/hantaakiraa/pt/fansub.html *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve R Stonebraker | Transformers FAQ Keeper | Astrophysicist srstoneb@yahoo.com | http://astro.bu.edu/~srstoneb/ | AOL IM: srstoneb